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Posted by chrisbet: Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 14:37 1st Post
Well I am off into FX land :smilesmall:.

Managed to pick up a D610 for £400, I have been watching prices for a while and the lowest I have seen until now was £420 so fairly chuffed.

The main issue is that you are up against dealers trying to snap up stock but sniping at the last instant is the only way to grab the bargain - this time I got my winning bid in by just one second before a dealer. Had it been the other way round I would have lost the auction even with the same bid!

So now I will list my D90 & DX lenses, etc. and recoup some of the cost - most of my lenses are FX compatible, fortunately :thumbs:



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Posted by Robert: Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 15:08 2nd Post
Well done, you will find a big difference.  I have only used the D600 briefly but it's a very capable camera, at that price it seems a bargain.  I got bored with sniping, I just look for well priced BiN items from sellers with low feedback. 

Apart from the Sigma 10-20, which is a wonderful lens on DX, and the 18-105 which is handy for snaps on the D3300 and my undamaged copy which I use for IR, I have made a point of only getting FX compatible lenses.  Mainly old film era lenses.



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Posted by jk: Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 17:07 3rd Post
Well done Chris.
The D600 I have is very fine and didnt suffer from the oil spoils from the shutter.  I still use.  The D610 is similar but has one or two refinements.
I think you will like the camera as the AF is quite fast but not as fast as the D850/D800.  
Enjoy the FX in low light as it works much better than D90/D80.


I use AuctionSniper for eBay bidded auctions, set it with a 2 secs before close with what I think is what I want to pay.  
I can introduce you or you can say I recommended you and you get 3 or 5 free bids. Just use my email address from my profile.



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Posted by chrisbet: Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 17:11 4th Post
The 70-300 f4.5-5.6G with VR is my favourite, if a little heavy, I also have a 50mm 1.8D prime and a 35-80 f4-5.6Dfrom my film camera.

I was a little disappointed with the 28-70 f3.5-4.5 "macro" so that is back up for sale.

I will probably look for a wide angle lens - any suggestions?



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Posted by chrisbet: Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 18:21 5th Post
jk wrote:
I use AuctionSniper for eBay bidded auctions, set it with a 2 secs before close with what I think is what I want to pay.  
I can introduce you or you can say I recommended you and you get 3 or 5 free bids. Just use my email address from my profile.
Lol - I have been using Auctionsniper for 20+ years - I used to buy MG engines at ridiculously low prices and relied on any other interested parties not having the time to jack up the price :coffee:



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Posted by Eric: Wed Sep 4th, 2019 05:05 6th Post
chrisbet wrote:
The 70-300 f4.5-5.6G with VR is my favourite, if a little heavy, I also have a 50mm 1.8D prime and a 35-80 f4-5.6Dfrom my film camera.

I was a little disappointed with the 28-70 f3.5-4.5 "macro" so that is back up for sale.

I will probably look for a wide angle lens - any suggestions?
The AF-S 18-35mm f3.5-4.5G ED is a very competent performer, despite being almost 1/3 of the price of the 'pro' version (17-35).

I used one before I foolishly decided to 'go pro'. It took 3 rejections before I got a 17-35 that was (marginally) better than the 18-35. I sold my 18-35  to a friend (he's still got it after 25years!). If I hadn't burnt my bridges I would have stuck with it. But having got rid of all my Nikon gear when I went to Fuji, and now full circle back with Nikon....I have another 18-35. ;-)

If you don't want to go new, I am sure you will find preowned at even better prices.



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Posted by chrishamer: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 11:46 7th Post
chrisbet wrote:
The 70-300 f4.5-5.6G with VR is my favourite, if a little heavy, I also have a 50mm 1.8D prime and a 35-80 f4-5.6Dfrom my film camera.

I was a little disappointed with the 28-70 f3.5-4.5 "macro" so that is back up for sale.

I will probably look for a wide angle lens - any suggestions?

I really love my 16-35 F4 but they seem to have held their value pretty well. I agree with Eric on the 18-35 being excellent and better value too.



Posted by jk: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 11:56 8th Post
I use my 17-35 F2.8 AFS on all my cameras including the Z7.  
It is a very good lens and frequently it is wide enough to mean that I dont need to use the 14-24 f2.8 AFS.



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Posted by chrisbet: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 13:59 9th Post
It turned up today and it looks immaculate, shutter count is 32k.

It is a bit bigger and heavier than the D90 but I am sure I'll get used to it.

A couple of test pics shows I need to get to know it - they seemed to come out much brighter than the D90 - need to play with the exposure!





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Posted by jk: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 14:52 10th Post
Check what metering mode you are in Chris.
Different metering modes make for big changes in my experience.  I like Matrix metering but some prefer centre-weighted.



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Posted by Robert: Thu Sep 5th, 2019 16:20 11th Post
Have you done a two button reset?

Two buttons will have green dots next to them, hold down the two buttons for a few seconds and the screen should ask if you want to reset the camera to factory settings...  It's a good starting place.  There are still some settings on some cameras which persist even after a reset but the important and some obscure settings are 'zeroed'.

With some bodies permanent exposure compensation of plus or minus 1/3 of a stop isn't unusual.

Keep a close eye on the histogram until you get used to the camera, even then keep an eye on it, that's your best guide.  Our eyes are easily misled because they compensate for bright or dull light, we sometimes don't realise how bright or dull it really is, the sensor isn't that smart!



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Posted by chrishamer: Fri Sep 6th, 2019 08:59 12th Post
Robert wrote:
Have you done a two button reset?

Two buttons will have green dots next to them, hold down the two buttons for a few seconds and the screen should ask if you want to reset the camera to factory settings...  It's a good starting place.  There are still some settings on some cameras which persist even after a reset but the important and some obscure settings are 'zeroed'.

With some bodies permanent exposure compensation of plus or minus 1/3 of a stop isn't unusual.

Keep a close eye on the histogram until you get used to the camera, even then keep an eye on it, that's your best guide.  Our eyes are easily misled because they compensate for bright or dull light, we sometimes don't realise how bright or dull it really is, the sensor isn't that smart!

Definitely agree on doing a two-button reset - also make sure it's running the latest firmware too.

I'd say that my D600 tended to overexpose too, probably by around 1/3 of a stop. I pretty much always shot at -1/3 unless I was shooting manual



Posted by chrisbet: Fri Sep 6th, 2019 10:20 13th Post
Yes - I did the reset and also cleared out some other user set items it doesn't cover. It is on the latest firmware too.

I have read that it tended to overexpose so I'll have to see what correction it needs.



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Posted by GeoffR: Fri Sep 6th, 2019 14:08 14th Post
I almost always set -2/3 stop exposure correction (As opposed to compensation, the former doesn't show in the finder)



Posted by chrisbet: Fri Sep 13th, 2019 12:24 15th Post
A few from today - experimenting with exposure and fill in flash to get the results I am looking for - D610 & 28-70mm f3.5-4.5










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Posted by Robert: Fri Sep 13th, 2019 14:08 16th Post
Love two, three would be nice but for the stick...  The first one lacks sharpness, maybe movement, or focus? The bee and stamens should be really sharp in my opinion.

Wind is usually the biggest enemy of flower photography. It can be dead calm, by the time I have set up my tripod and focused on the flower a breeze suddenly develops, it come from nowhere, the moment I reach for the shutter release!



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Posted by chrisbet: Fri Sep 13th, 2019 15:45 17th Post
Possibly some movement in 1 - I was after the hover fly and it kept moving!
Sorry about the stick in 3 - I'll chop it off next time :lol:

I am pleased with 2, I stopped the lens down to get DOF and used flash to get the exposure - the shadows really throw the flowers into 3D :smilesmall:



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Posted by chrisbet: Tue Jan 11th, 2022 12:00 18th Post
Technical question - the menu of the D610 offers the choice of 11 or 39 focus points - in what circumstances would I want to use each of these settings?



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Posted by Eric: Tue Jan 11th, 2022 22:43 19th Post
chrisbet wrote:
Technical question - the menu of the D610 offers the choice of 11 or 39 focus points - in what circumstances would I want to use each of these settings? I’ve always assumed the more focus points the greater the risk the camera will choose to lock onto something other than the point you want (eg the background or close by detail). However in situations where the subject is moving about (eg birds in flight, sports) having more focus points increases your chance of keeping the focus locked on.



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Posted by blackfox: Wed Jan 12th, 2022 10:38 20th Post
got to agree with you re-more focus points allowing for error Eric , there are many multi point modes on my current olympus body but I tend to find for a cluttered background just using either of the two single points is best (two sizes of points ) for birds in flight I tend to use cluster focus (all points) if the sky /background is clear .im pretty sure from memory that this will apply to the nikon A/F system to


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