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Posted: Wed Apr 17th, 2013 01:42
 
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I have had a lot of Apple Laptops including the original 'lugable' Mac portable, which had lead acid batteries and weighed a ton.

The only issues I had were with the white polycarbonate G3 iBooks which suffered with the motherboards cracking near the vRAM chip due to heat fluctuation.

My current 13" MBP is rock solid and I take it everywhere with me. I use it for video work and testing, it get's a lot of stick, I never turn it off, I just use it.

Within the first week the screen went faulty, some of the LED's died. I took it to the Apple store just before they closed at about 21:30 and they couldn't reproduce to fault but I had taken a photograph of the fault with the 'About this Mac' window showing so they accepted my complaint and replaced the screen with no further pressure from me. I collected it at 9am next morning before they even opened. It must have been worked on overnight. It has been fine since.



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Back to the topic of imports unlike Robert I use LR for nearly my entire work flow including the importing of images from the card. I use the Date naming sequence built into LR, which automatically generates a folder structure very similar to the one Robert showed us and uses.

I "Copy as DNG" having decided some time ago that this was the format I was going to use (JK strongly disagrees with this strategy!).

 




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Rich, You know it will come and bite you just like the funnel web spider in the dunnie!!!
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I prefer to just manage my file storage directory structure but I'm sure that LR has a good method.



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jk wrote:


I prefer to just manage my file storage directory structure but I'm sure that LR has a good method.


That's where I am, too. LR may have a more logical structure (or not) but I have my own and it has worked for me...and I have WAY too much to restructure along any other line. Besides I think LR has some limit on how big you can make the catalogs, such that I exceed it???

Be that as it may, if you do not use LR for the catalog feature, I still feel that some smart guys are using it as part of the editing workflow - I just have not found any way to make that happen.

In fact the only thing that has me thinking about it again, is that Perfect Photo Suite 7 seems to have more features for LR than for PS - part of that is that they state that LR doesn't support layers (hard to believe) and so PPS has added that functionality with Perfect Layers for LR only (PS supports layers obviously) and there is a whole workflow running from Perfect Layers to all the other features of PPS which looks great.

I don't see any easy way to go back and forth from LR to PS without saving files and reopening as you move from one app to the other? I guess I would rather see LR as a PS plugin...

Good grief, where am I going with this? I seem to hit this wall about once a year trying to get my head around LR :-)



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With the demise of Bibble5/AftershotPro I have moved to Capture Pro 7 but that needs more CPU power as does Lightroom4 to process the same files. But as I need to use CP7 to get the latest RAW support I am being pushed to get a more powerful machine. I really want a 12core Mac Pro but the new price is horrible and they are like hens teeth secondhand.



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Supposed to be a release of a new Mac Pro this summer, I think...second hand ones should go down a lot if there is...so many people have been waiting for this.

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Yes that is the promise, in fact it is due next month (May).
It may be that it is a 'double decker' MacMini with two CPUs or a Smaller Mac Pro box.
For me it is about the box and the ability to have one box with everything in it so no spaghetti to external enclosures.



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There are mixed opinions on this one. Apple as usual are playing it close to their chest. The consensus I am aware of is split 50/50 on whether there will ever be a new MacPro and those who do think there will be tend to think it will be a MUCH smaller unit, more akin to the Apple cube.

How many users actually NEED cards nowadays? That is the only justification for the size large of the current Mac Pro. Direct access to the processors can be made via thunderbolt, it's possible to fit a couple of Express Card 32 slots, as found in the NLA 17" MBP. With the availability of large Thunderbolt array RAID drives, internal storage isn't so critical. I don't see there being sufficient unit sales of an expensive and limited need device to justify Apple continuing the line.

Apple's whole ethos seems to be towards developing personal and household products, maybe they don't want (need?) the 'heavy' side?

Further evidence of this is the way Apple ID's are managed and the 'dumbing down' of serious and previous professional applications like Final Cut, their video software and the Apple server software which is now a mere'App' lacking the capability of the original product. They have dropped the 'proper' industrial, rack mount servers. The current version of Final Cut 'Pro' is I understand, anything but Pro, having lost many vital Pro features; it's a hollow shadow of the original highly regarded software. Many serious video producers have moved over to Adobe Premiere.

I saw a discussion recently where a pretty experienced Apple user was trying to set up a small business network of about 10 units for his brother but when it came to updating the software the Apple ID Issue started to rear it's head, there are workarounds but it doesn't seem to be designed/intended for more than 5 unit clusters out of the box, from an admin point of view.



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Robert-

The made a big mistake on FinalCut Pro but seem to have realized that and redeemed themselves.

I really have to ask why anyone needs a Mac Pro - the new iMacs can be ordered with 32gb ram and have much fast processors than any mac pro has come with. Yes, they can't be pulled apart and customized but as you point out, with thunderbolt, who needs to do that any more.

Question is, when is the proper time to order a new iMac...sounds like we will see one with 10x faster wifi, new thunderbolt that is 2x present speeds and maybe a rentina display.... Hard to think I can live without one of those :-)

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My mind is spinning after having read all those posts , all i knew about mac is that lay out artists use `em , `cause they`re the best for graphics , so I figured they`ve got t` be good for photo work , all I`ve got so far =
LR 3 .... Photoscape ( for the minox-leica m3 )... Kodak photodesk ( the Best developer for the slrN )
The great yellow father in Rochester , in his wisdom omitted perspective control in photodesk , a feature I often reach for , so I try t` export from photodesk to LR3 , and ran into problems  ( I could n`t import ) I will try Robert`s approach.
BTW .. I tried to download LR 5 beta ,..I got the message to confirm my E-mail t` be correct , and I still have no idea if I`ve got LR 5 , as I can n`t find it on my computer o.O



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