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| Posted: Fri Feb 2nd, 2024 08:45 |
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Eric
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novicius wrote:Optically , the 105 f2.0 DC is more than I could ask for,but it has no VR..well , neither has the 105 f1.4,so there..I think that VR is the Best invention since digital photography. I had the 105 f2.8 Micro AFS VR. Nice lens though a bit chunky. However the VR for macro was a bit pointless because I was given to understand VR doesn’t work on subject distances closer than 2feet. At any rate the camera was often mounted on a tripod so VR had to be switched off.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 2nd, 2024 09:37 |
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jk
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I dont think there is much difference between the makes. Sony A1 was a bit ahead when released but had few lenses, Nikon caught up with the Z9 and have steadily released replacement Z series lenses which are optically very good but no better than Canon/Sony/ Nikon F glass. Moving from F mount to Z mount seems to have little benefit apart from the removal of the FTZ adapter from the equation. The new Z series lenses when you look at the physical design seem to be little more than a F lens with a built on FTZ adapter. I guess some of this is driven by lens physics but with all the exotic lens glass mixes some physically smaller lenses would be great. This has been achieved with the newer Z series telephotos and long zooms. My Z series 100-400 lens is a smaller beast but still very heavy. I think the way the technology is going the big advances will come with things like better electronics and global shutter to replace the current mechanical and electronic shutters. This will probably make the cameras a little lighter but no less bulky as extra battery power will be needed.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 2nd, 2024 10:52 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:I dont think there is much difference between the makes. Sony A1 was a bit ahead when released but had few lenses, Nikon caught up with the Z9 and have steadily released replacement Z series lenses which are optically very good but no better than Canon/Sony/ Nikon F glass. No one seems to have fully embraced the notion of lightweight mirrorless systems, with the possible exception of Fuji. What most manufacturers seem to be blind to is making cameras dimensionally smaller does little to make the cameras lighter, just more awkward in the hand. Coupled with existing lenses which were invariably heavy with prestige fast glass and full frame functionality, you get something that’s no lighter than mirrored systems but now more imbalanced in the hand. Lighter in the wallet but nowhere else! Fuji lenses are some of the lightest I have come across and offer a more balanced coupling with their DX bodies. Frankly I’ve been underwhelmed by the mirrorless revolution. While some have achieved some benefits most have just produced a different version of what we had.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 2nd, 2024 11:05 |
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jk
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Eric wrote:No one seems to have fully embraced the notion of lightweight mirrorless systems, with the possible exception of Fuji. The biggest advance in mirrorless is the ability to have WYSIWYG exposure (more or less) but it has taken a decade to retrieve the AF performance we had in cameras such as D3 and subsequent DSLRs.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 2nd, 2024 12:45 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:The biggest advance in mirrorless is the ability to have WYSIWYG exposure (more or less) but it has taken a decade to retrieve the AF performance we had in cameras such as D3 and subsequent DSLRs. Yes there have no doubt been other benefits. It’s just a shame they didn’t promote those features in preference to lighter weight
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| Posted: Sun Feb 4th, 2024 04:06 |
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novicius
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I did not know that VR has a range where it works well, as it so happens , just these days have I been checking the 24-70 VR and the TAMRON 15-30 G2 , the latter having VR on-off only while the 24 - 70 has three positions ...Off-Normal-Active , and tried within a distance less than one mtr. the results were " unsharp " , on both the D3X and D3s , with the X being a bit better , but nothing to write home about,...tested against the 105 f2.0 DC and the Micro 105 f4.0 ai-s ,showing Sharp results , tested with shutter speeds of 1/8 ... 1/30 sec....was there something wrong with the camera`s , both of them ..?..I was close to being desperate . so Eric, Thank You for pointing out that VR is having a limited range , out of wich it seems making matters Worse.( I have since " tested " the afore mentioned lenses on a longer distance and everything is pico-bello ) I wonder if Nikon would benefit from having an SLR made with the " Z " mount with an adapter so as to mount the " F " lenses, giving us the opportunity to slowly migrate to Better/Faster glass when the Missus permits, I understand that Digital camera`s have to be focused Digitally so that sensor/flange distance can remain the same. But perhaps our in-house Computer Wizard ( our Dearly beloved Chief Moderator ) could enlighten us.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 4th, 2024 06:59 |
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chrisbet
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There is a Z to F adapter already - Nikon FTZ 2 There is a good explanation of VR here - Nikon VR
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| Posted: Mon Feb 5th, 2024 11:03 |
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jk
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I have a copy of the original FTZ adapter that came with my Z7 but I find it annoying to use. I was fortunate to be able to get a FTZ mkii adapter for a good price and this converts many of my F mount lens to be used on my Zf, Z9 or Z7. The difference between the original and the mkii version is that the original FTZ has a tripod mount screw foot which is missing on the new version. NB: There are no optics in either of these adapters as they are merely a tube with linkage electronics so the camera and lens are electrically connected. The FTZ adapters are ONLY meant to be used with Nikon AFS series lenses, but all AF, AFD and AI lenses (that I have) work but only in manual focus mode.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 5th, 2024 14:14 |
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Iain
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Graham Whistler wrote:Very sorry to hear that as a lot of people still using older Niikons and getting good results but are retired or just not able to upgrade to Z even if they wanted to. I am very pleased I sold all my Nikon equipment at a very good price at the right time and moved to Sony. You were the same as me Graham. I could see the writing on the wall for dslr’s so changed when the price was still strong for them. Friends that still have DSLR are finding that value of them has dropped significantly.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 5th, 2024 14:35 |
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novicius
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chrisbet wrote:There is a Z to F adapter already - Nikon FTZ 2 The " Z " camera`s are Not SLR`s . I meant enlightening us about Digital Focusing.....I have a program to Re-Focus the photo but after it has been taken, yet have heard that digital camera´`s need to be focused digitally as well, seems to be the very reason why some lenses do not do so well on certain camera`s. Some years ago we had a member, from Singapore I thought, who had focusing problems with a D800/810 and a 70-200 f2.8, in and out of Nikon service it went but the rig just did not want to play, yet, both lens and camera worked flawlessly with other lenses/camera`s.
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