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Posted: Tue Feb 13th, 2024 10:59
 
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Why not get a dummy battery and power the camera from an external power bank?



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novicius wrote:
Thank You for the detailed responses regarding the D850, sounds like a camera that I could be interested in, as BIF photography is not my forte, indeed, the birds that are of interest to me have propellers or jet-engines, and it is such a shame they phased out the Harrier,which is a cute looking bird and there is something dangerous about it.

However, I will wait a bit longer and see if a D5 / D6 will show in the nearby future , the battery thing is important to me, having toted camera`s with different batteries / chargers around the globe was an experience I would not want to " enjoy " again.

Still wondering if an EN-EL 4 could be shortened to fit a D5 / D6 ....so that the ( dead ) batteries could be rebuild and I could use the chargers that I already have.

You seem confused. The EN-EL4 and the EN-EL18 are the same size in almost every respect, I have one of each sitting beside me as I type. The only difference is that the contacts are, looking at contact end of the battery, on the left with the EN-EL4 and on the right with the EN-EL18. You can charge the EN-EL4 using an MH26a and a BT-A10 adaptor plate.

 




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jk wrote:
@Novicius re... Still wondering if an EN-EL 4 could be shortened to fit a D5 / D6 ....so that the ( dead ) batteries could be rebuild and I could use the chargers that I already have.

I dont think that this would be a viable idea.


Better to get a dead battery EN-EL18c from the D5/D6 and recell it with the correct cells.  The D5/D6 will require 2500mAh (10.8V) battery whilst the EN-EL4 battery uses cells which are less powerful 2000mAh.

Not so. The EN-EL4a is 2500mAh and the original EN-EL18 is 2000mAh again I have examples to hand

 




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jk wrote:
There is extra shielding around the battery contacts on the EN-EL18.
Sorry to be contrary again but three's no difference.

 




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GeoffR wrote:
Not so. The EN-EL4a is 2500mAh and the original EN-EL18 is 2000mAh again I have examples to hand
Electrically speaking the camera doesnt care as long as voltage is correct and there is enough current to work the electronics.
I never moved past the D3S as I found that the D3/D3S gave me everything I need until I got D800/D810/D850.  These were more economic to buy and more 'functional' for my use.

The bigger batteries give superior number of shots/charge and is for me the only attraction in the D5/D6,  both are now discontinued.  The D850 gave me what I needed.
I still have one D850 for those occasional times when I need to use a DSLR but the mirrorless camera Zf, Z7, Z8 and Z9 are more than adequate for my current needs.  The Z7 is slow to focus compared to all my other Zf, Z8, Z9 camera but it is tiny which makes it ideal for long treks.



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jk wrote:
Electrically speaking the camera doesnt care as long as voltage is correct and there is enough current to work the electronics.
I never moved past the D3S as I found that the D3/D3S gave me everything I need until I got D800/D810/D850.  These were more economic to buy and more 'functional' for my use.

The bigger batteries give superior number of shots/charge and is for me the only attraction in the D5/D6,  both are now discontinued.  The D850 gave me whatI needed.
I still have one D850 for those occasional times when I need to use a DSLR but the mirrorless camera Zf, Z7, Z8 and Z9 are more than adequate for my current needs.  The Z7 is slow to focus compared to all my other Zf, Z8, Z9 camera but it is tiny which makes it ideal for long treks.

I’ve come to a realisation… it’s not that my camera is too heavy for long treks…..it’s the treks are too long for my camera, and me. ;-)  If it’s too far to lug my one and only camera….its simply too far. :lol:



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100% with Eric on this one.



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Eric wrote:
I’ve come to a realisation… it’s not that my camera is too heavy for long treks…..it’s the treks are too long for my camera, and me. ;-)  If it’s too far to lug my one and only camera….its simply too far. :lol:
I believe that is why photographers have assistants.
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jk wrote:
I believe that is why photographers have assistants.
:lol:

True…but even back in the day when I was more able, and when iso really controlled quality….I always said… “if it needs more than a 1000iso, it’s time for the pub”.
 Of course noise control has moved on significantly since I was earning my crust from a camera. I would probably now say (camera system dependant)  “if it needs more than 5000iso, it’s time for the pub”.



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Wine'o'clock it is, unless there is a good stout available for trial.  Mind you IPA washes down a nice ploughman's lunch!



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