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| Posted: Sun May 20th, 2018 05:30 |
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Graham Whistler wrote:Super shot but sunlight is rough on black birds and shadow detail could be sorted in Photoshop to show a bit more. I think you get best quality for bird pix in overcast weather ie cloudy bright. It's a cruel irony that in the UK we need the sun to give us 1/2000 at f8 and <800 iso...and it brings with it other exposure problems. One, perhaps obvious and basic, thing I've learnt is that when the sun is out full, you really need the bird posing it's head so the part facing the camera is in full sun. The shadow side, no matter how much recovery you do is always 'dead' and pointless facing the camera. Like this... Attachment: 7FD93103-5346-413B-ACE9-47D5C39534B7.jpeg (Downloaded 40 times)
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| Posted: Sun May 20th, 2018 05:31 |
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Eric
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...rather than like this.... Attachment: DA74B433-B497-458B-9C6F-9EE0D997DDCC.jpeg (Downloaded 40 times)
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| Posted: Sun May 20th, 2018 05:37 |
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Eric
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I suppose it's just like studio modelling but without the benefit of fill in reflectors (unless water is around to help). The above examples are heavy crops so poor quality but before they get binned they taught me the lesson to pay attention not only to the birds body position and movement but where the light falls on the key area it's eye. Whilst the pose is better in the second one...the eye is going to be dead being in the shadow. Apologies if this sounds a bit like teaching granny to suck eggs to you experts, but I'm on a new learning curve or perhaps remembering things long forgotten...and sharing my journey may be of interest to others. Also....take a look at the boketh out of focus reeds way behind the birds. They show the scintered fragmented look I was mentioning with this lens....it gives a more distracting effect than good old plain fuzz.
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| Posted: Sun May 20th, 2018 08:46 |
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Graham Whistler
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Is this any better, using shadows highlights and midtone contrast in Photoshop.I also see the problem you are talking about in background out of focus detail. Attachment: Eric 02.jpg (Downloaded 45 times)
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| Posted: Sun May 20th, 2018 09:04 |
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Graham Whistler
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This was mine at same time with the D850 picked this as with side view most of body was in full shadow. I have over processed slightly in Photoshop to show haw much detail you cam pull out of a Raw file in post processing. Also how does background compare with you lens Eric? Attachment: Redshank0924.jpg (Downloaded 38 times)
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| Posted: Sun May 20th, 2018 11:21 |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:Is this any better, using shadows highlights and midtone contrast in Photoshop.I also see the problem you are talking about in background out of focus detail. I was referring to the other Redshank post with it's eye in the shadow. I am aware of the usefulness of the Highlight and Shadows filter. But like most Photoshop filters they can only be used in moderation before the artefacts they reveal become unacceptable. I personally feel that Lightening shadows is a last resort, especially when dealing with a heavily cropped segment of an image. I fear that many of my images of that ilk are better in the bin than attempting a rescue.
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| Posted: Sun May 20th, 2018 11:55 |
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Eric
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Ok, further to my last post, couldn't resist doing some selective tweaking of the shadowed side of the head. But it would be so much easier NOT to put key areas of the image in shadow in the first instance. Attachment: C355F60C-4864-4EA2-901D-7E9CBF3D22DC.jpeg (Downloaded 38 times)
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| Posted: Sun May 20th, 2018 12:21 |
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Eric
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Have to say Graham, the background on that D850 image is similar to mine. So maybe it's these new sensors or the firmware, rather than the glass??
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| Posted: Sun May 20th, 2018 16:55 |
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Graham Whistler
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I agree that our images above are for the bin I would never dream of blowing up such a small image and hope to get quality.Strong sun is not best lighting for birds has not helped either.
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| Posted: Mon May 21st, 2018 13:03 |
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Graham Whistler
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Home and this afternoon in Titchfield Haven and the Avocets have produced while we were in E-Anglis. 32 in reserve and in an hour I saw three parents with young. Got quite close to this family with 3 young. Nikon D850 with 80-400lens as above with x1.4. Attachment: Avocets1062f.jpg (Downloaded 33 times)
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