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| Posted: Tue Dec 8th, 2020 17:21 |
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Graham Whistler
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Sorry more starlings on the flutter butter. D500 18-140mm lens at 140mm Camera on tripod with TW-283 wifi remote warm indoors! 1/2000 sec f7.1 ISO 3200 AFC 9 point and 10 fps. I have also had another go with Nikon SnapBridgelinked to my iPhone SE but not good with Bluetooth through glass and 10 fps crashed it at once! Click here to comment on this image.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 8th, 2020 17:42 |
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Eric
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Graham Whistler wrote:Sorry more starlings on the flutter butter. D500 18-140mm lens at 140mm Camera on tripod with TW-283 wifi remote warm indoors! 1/2000 sec f7.1 ISO 3200 AFC 9 point and 10 fps. I have also had another go with Nikon SnapBridgelinked to my iPhone SE but not good with Bluetooth through glass and 10 fps crashed it at once! Nicely framed action shot....from your armchair as well. 😆 I still think the D850 is better for ISOs over 2000. Have you tried that DX lens on the D850? It might give you the best of both worlds?
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| Posted: Wed Dec 9th, 2020 07:05 |
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Iain
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I have found that the D500 gets noisy at 1000iso to about 4000 but at 6400 mine is clean again. If I'm going to know I need between 1000 - 4000 I use the old D3.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 9th, 2020 07:11 |
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jk
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Iain wrote:I have found that the D500 gets noisy at 1000iso to about 4000 but at 6400 mine is clean again. If I'm going to know I need between 1000 - 4000 I use the old D3. I agree that over 1600 ISO it becomes noisy but I never tried it higher up. Another thing to test. The D500 is not in the same class as the D850 wrt noise. When you consider the 45MP of the D850 with the 21MP of the D500 then it really should do better. I know that the FX tends to work better than DX due to photo site size. Maybe we should be thinking of a D510 coming with the new EXPEED6 support chips as these help to reduce the image noise.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 9th, 2020 07:49 |
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Graham Whistler
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I agree the D850 is very much better re high ISO noise but just used the D500 for this test and the noise can be sorted quite well in Photoshop. Just had a Christmas card from an old friend from the very early days of our forum: Carol Steele she is retired from professional photography, still in Devon but still using a D800 just had a good talk on the phone.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 9th, 2020 10:40 |
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Eric
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Iain wrote:I have found that the D500 gets noisy at 1000iso to about 4000 but at 6400 mine is clean again. If I'm going to know I need between 1000 - 4000 I use the old D3. That's interesting Iain. I feel a test coming on, weather permitting, tomorrow. I've long criticised Nikon for pushing 'acceptable' noise at much higher levels whilst the improvement at lower levels has lagged behind. My D3 was relatively noise free to around 3000iso outdoors and 2000iso indoors. I would have much preferred this noise free ceiling to be lifted to around 5000, rather than being able to have noisey images at 64,400! The D850 is little better than the D3 below 2000 and probably inferior at 3000! Whilst I accept that software can reduce noise, they all work by softening the image to some degree. Though this can be managed reasonably well with a bit of precision, the fact remains if noise were not there in the first instance, the image wouldn't need softening...... quite the reverse, it would respond to sharpening even better. A camera that achieves noise free quality up to 5000 without any post processing intervention would get my vote.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 9th, 2020 11:01 |
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jk
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Eric wrote:That's interesting Iain. I feel a test coming on, weather permitting, tomorrow. I used to use my D3 at ISO 3200 but my D3S works at ISO 6400. My D850 seems to work very well, but I havent really pushed it past ISO 3200. I agree a camera with smooth noiseless results to ISO 6400 would be a real winner but I am sure that the cut-off limits for others such as sports shooters might be ISO 12800.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 9th, 2020 11:42 |
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Eric
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That's true...but they wouldn't be buying a D850. More likely a D6,7,8 for speed and extra durability.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 9th, 2020 15:03 |
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jk
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Z9 is also the logical next step as it should be a mirrorless D7! I am all cameraed out. 45MP Z7 and D850 make me a contented soul. No more lenses or cameras required.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 9th, 2020 18:03 |
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Richard_M
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An introduced bird into Australia, European Goldfinch #1  #2  #3  #4  #5 
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