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| Posted: Fri Aug 24th, 2012 09:41 |
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jk
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Does anyone have any Nikon PC lenses ? Have you used them?. What is the difference between the older PC version and the newer PC-E version. I know that Peter Lo has the Nikon PC-E 24mm f3.5. Very nice but probably not something I would like to shell out for even though it is obviously the current state of the art from Nikon. How equivalent to a proper swing/tilt effect found on a 5x4 camera ?
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| Posted: Fri Aug 24th, 2012 14:54 |
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Gilbert Sandberg
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JK, The PC-E lenses are designed with electric F control, to complement cameras like the D3 and later. To use the PC-E lens woth most older cameras tricks are needed. ( some beyond what you can read in the lens manual). I own an older 28mm PC and have used the 24 PC-E lens. The tilt/swing is obviously not as flexible like a true 4x5 camera, if only the relation of tilt and swing is fixed , but can be rotated 90 deg by a service tech. Regards, Gilbert
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| Posted: Fri Aug 24th, 2012 15:17 |
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jk
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Thanks for the info Gilbert. I would love to try out the 24 PC-E but it seems like an expensive purchase for a try out.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 24th, 2012 19:27 |
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TomOC
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JK- Look for the old versions on ebay or even B&H used department... Less than half the price of the new ones and some of us like the way they shift from portrait to landscape better than the new versions. The pc is incredible for any architectural shots. It's just amazing how you can make better photos. I wasn't a believer until I worked with a guy who really knew what he was doing; I thought I could use the 24-70 and then correct in photoshop and match him....FAIL I understand that Canon has leapfrogged Nikon recently by adding independent tilt and shift, though I must admit, I haven't gotten my head around how you would use that  Best results always come from a good tripod with a good level Rent one and go shoot some interiors and exterior shots...you will never go back. Tom PS - the older ones are all manual
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| Posted: Sat Aug 25th, 2012 00:09 |
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Doug
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Thanks JK I've always loved camera movements, but went off the boil with view camera photography around the time of the D1. Unfortunately PC lenses on digital were never satisfactory (until now) due to the high cost of even half decent FF resolution Perhaps the purchase of a D800 and a PC lens is on the horizon
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| Posted: Sat Aug 25th, 2012 03:26 |
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Gilbert Sandberg
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JK, I would recommend borrowing or renting a PC-E lens to try it. A word of warning for the younger ones among us. Older PC lenses (upto the 85 2.8 Micro-D) have full manual control over F stops, so yo have to shut it by hand for each shot. (this is what the PC-E series remedies) Also: the 24 PC-E is (physically) the largest 24mm lens I have ever seen. I agree with Tom: useless without plenty of patience, a tripod and spirit level (or D4). Regards, Gilbert
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| Posted: Sat Aug 25th, 2012 05:48 |
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jk
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Oh dear I feel some temptation for that 24mm PC-E but as I have just said that I have finished my lens collection. Maybe I could sneak one extra item in if I go to Vietnam and Cambodia via Hong Kong. Renting is not a good option here in Spain as there are no suitable rental agencies close by. I could probably offer a better service and lens range than most shops.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 25th, 2012 07:26 |
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Gilbert Sandberg
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JK, You may try to get into so called good books with a local dealer or Nikon Spain. Here in Holland Nikon (NPS) visits selected (professional) dealers while bringing most nice (current) lenses. Regards, Gilbert
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30th, 2012 03:01 |
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Peter_LO
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JK, I don't have any 4x5 but only a 6x17 with shift function. The PC-E 24 is very sharp in its "neutral" position, but once shifted it has much more CA that the Super Angulon 90, and sharpness drops drastically. AE and auto-aperture are big pluses over non-E PC lenses, but the vignetting wide-open will fool the meter and it ends up into heavily over-exposed pictures. That said, I can feel the temptation.:thumbsup: If renting is not a viable option, how about buying one 2nd hand? AFAIK a 2nd hand PC 35 is only USD 500 in HK.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 30th, 2012 07:55 |
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jk
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Peter_LO wrote: JK, Thanks for the information on the realities of use. I can see a Nikon 24mm f3.5 PC-E in the UK for £1150 (second hand) but I can buy one new for £1400 so the differential is not good. I can also see second hand units of Nikon 35 PC or (my preference) 28mm PC for £300 and £400 respectively. There is also another option I am considering which is a Kipon tilt adapter for the Fuji XPro1 which allows me to attach a Nikon lens. This sounds best to be as the cost is only £75 delivered to my door from China.
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