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| Posted: Wed Apr 17th, 2013 10:41 |
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TomOC
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JK- Is there a way to keyword WITHOUT making .xmp files ? i.e. to embed in the raw file? Or .psd file? Tom
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23rd, 2013 15:20 |
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Andy
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This might be of some use to show some effects available in LR5 http://paper.li/f-1347307085?utm_source=subscription&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=paper_sub
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| Posted: Wed Apr 24th, 2013 01:41 |
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jk
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TomOC wrote: JK- No you cant embed in the RAW file unless you use some other tools. LR gives you the option to make an xmp file that sits with the image or in another place of your choice, or store the data in the LR database of images.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 24th, 2013 03:08 |
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Robert
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Well I am not so sure. I don't understand it properly but I have been messing with my image file libraries and re-organising my Lightroom catalogues. As I have mentioned before I do not ingest my actual image files into Lightroom, they are in their original folder structure on a hard drive with the Lightroom.LrCat and the previews.Lrdata in a nearby folder. The vast majority of my images are NEF's. This is an account of an experiment. Yesterday I copied all my image files to a fresh, clean internal drive from an external drive. I then created a NEW Lightroom 3 catalogue. Many of the keywords, and apparently all of the image adjustments were re-created when I created the new catalogue. Not all the keywords were present so in fact I dumped the 'new' catalogue. I was careful to unmount the external drive before creating the new catalogue, so as not to give the cataloging process any external reference. I don't understand why some keywords 'stuck' and others were apparently lost, It didn't appear to relate to NEF/JPEG differences. It was more recent keywords which were missing. There are very few sidecar files, only for images I have opened with Photoshop, which are progressively fewer nowadays. So based on my experiment keywords are carried with the image files, even NEF's but apparently not reliably. I have included a screen shot of my current folder structure below. Back to keyword checking... When I get bored with Keyword checking again I may create a new catalogue with some fresh images and see what happens... Attachment: Screen Shot 2013-04-24 at 08.50.26.jpg (Downloaded 32 times)
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| Posted: Wed Apr 24th, 2013 07:08 |
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jk
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I use LR for all my Keywording and Image Rating. Lightroom stores all keywords and Image Rating in the lrcat database or in the xmp files. It creates against every image. http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/2680/how-does-lightroom-store-data-about-photos There are occasions when I have keyworded files and then gone back to find they havent been keyworded!. I have decided this is due to the type ahead feature in the keywording so when I do an to save the keyword in fact all I have done is accepted the Keyword suggested. I need to decide if the type ahead is desirable or not. Sometimes it is sometimes not!! There is also another occasion when you can think you are keywording and in fact you are only doing some of the files not all. See the link below for a full explanation. http://digital-photography-school.com/introduction-to-keywords-and-lightroom
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| Posted: Thu Apr 25th, 2013 00:39 |
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TomOC
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Good grief. Now I'm SURE I don't want to use the LR catalog...losing just "some" keywording is the same as losing them all.
____________________ Tom O'Connell -Lots of people talk to animals.... Not very many listen, though.... That's the problem. Benjamin Hoff, The Tao of Pooh |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 25th, 2013 02:30 |
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Robert
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Tom, you have misunderstood, I HAVENT LOST ONE KEYWORD because I still had my original catalogue which I moved over from the external drive to the internal drive and re-connected with my images. Not only that but it's backed up too. The point of my above post was that *some* keywords seem to be somehow attached to the image files, while some are not. This was not due to sidecar files. It was an experiment to help answer your question in post 21, to see if the keywords came with the images or the catalogue. I still don't know the answer, some keywords definitely do, some don't. I want to try to figure what is different about the ones that do stick. 
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| Posted: Thu Apr 25th, 2013 03:06 |
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jk
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If you copy some images (NEF only) onto a different hard drive then open them with Photo Mechanic if they have embedded keywords - which they shouldnt unless you have used something on them that does open the image and write data then you should see no keywords. Images with keywords present should always have xmp files or else a database entry in the software product that you are using.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 25th, 2013 03:10 |
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jk
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Robert wrote:Tom, you have misunderstood, I HAVENT LOST ONE KEYWORD because I still had my original catalogue which I moved over from the external drive to the internal drive and re-connected with my images. Not only that but it's backed up too. If you select ALL your images in Lightroom then tell it to write XMP files then do a Metadata sync it will make for all your images xmp files with the keywords and image ratings and your edit data. I used this feature on Windows as I used iMatch for my cataloguing on Windows.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 25th, 2013 03:19 |
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Robert
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jk wrote:I use LR for all my Keywording and Image Rating. Thanks JK, I have looked at the links. The first link has some interesting snippets which I will follow up. As I add keywords I always check they have registered before I move to the next image, but they always do register. The only time I have a problem of this sort is using the recent keyword list. Clicking on a keyword here 'toggles' the keyword i.e. turns it on or off. If the keyword in the recent keyword list is highlighted then it's selected, otherwise it's grey. If I am quickly checking for a particular keyword in a batch of images I use the recent keyword feature to turn on or off the particular keyword, sometimes I toggle it the wrong way. That can result in the keyword being either present or absent for that particular image, or if I have multiple images selected in grid view, all of the selected images. Currently I am checking every single keyword and checking the keyword against the image for relevance. The highlighting of the active keywords isn't as clear as it might be, sometimes when my eyes are very tired I make mistakes. I would guess at present I am spending at least ten hours a day checking the keywords. Attachment: Screen Shot 2013-04-25 at 09.11.06.jpg (Downloaded 27 times)
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