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Posted by jk: Wed Jan 24th, 2018 13:43 1st Post
Nikon announced this item.
https://www.dpreview.com/news/7401041032/nikon-claimed-the-1-spot-in-the-full-frame-camera-market-for-december-2017on FF cameras #1 in December 2017.

This is really good news for us all as it means that Nikon are actually producing the cameras that the marketplace wants and needs.

For me personally it vindicates my decision to have Nikon FF as my main working camera with a D500 as the second string but for my travel and general use I prefer the lightness of my Fujis.

Since I effectively have a 'perfect set' for both camera ranges I am very happy and need no further purchases except for the hopefully rare events of camera/lens death!



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Posted by Iain: Wed Jan 24th, 2018 15:09 2nd Post
While I have never even picked up a D850 by reading the reports that are about it seeme the best all round camera on the market.



Posted by jk: Thu Jan 25th, 2018 12:56 3rd Post
I would say it is the most complete Nikon. Why anyone wants a D5 would be a question I would ask?
The D5 seems like a heavy, expensive camera with less utility.



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Posted by Iain: Fri Jan 26th, 2018 07:09 4th Post
If I was still working then I would go for the D5 but at £2k more than the D850 I think anyone else would have to think if it was worth it.



Posted by novicius: Wed Jan 31st, 2018 12:17 5th Post
TRUST !!....I do Not trust anything but a Big D Nikon when about..four mnth.s in far east..currently Pilipinas , I am Glad to have the D3S with me..and a Bessa L with Heliar 15 f4.5 , my Only regret is that weight restrictions forced the D3X to stay put.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Feb 2nd, 2018 09:39 6th Post
I am very pleased with the results from my D850 but use the D500 more for my bird photography.



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Posted by jk: Fri Feb 2nd, 2018 12:04 7th Post
I used my D500 with 200-500 for my recent moonrise and moonset pictures.

Also on my Facebook profile.
https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.knights.16

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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Feb 2nd, 2018 12:36 8th Post
Nice one!
We have just booked a villa in Spain for 2 weeks early Sept just North of Ronda and hope to get good use with of my Nikons. We are crossing over from Portsmouth to Santander then taking 3 days to travel South in our car, all new places for me!



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Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 2nd, 2018 16:21 9th Post
Graham Whistler wrote:
I am very pleased with the results from my D850 but use the D500 more for my bird photography.
Does that mean cropping an 850 file isn't as good as the 500file?

Or is there another reason to use the 500 for birding?



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Posted by Robert: Fri Feb 2nd, 2018 16:44 10th Post
Can't speak for the D850 specifically but I think this applies.

The focus points are exactly the same between the D5 (FX) and the D500 (DX) meaning with the FX sensor the focus points are clustered in the centre with the periphery bare of focus points. With the DX, the focus points cover almost the entire screen.

This means, effectively, a target bird is more likely to be picked up anywhere in the viewfinder of a DX camera, whereas with FX you HAVE to keep the target bird in the centre of the viewfinder to stand any chance of locking on. Once locked on, the camera will track the target bird almost magically anywhere within the AF point area. But with FX, the AF point area is effectively quite a bit smaller.

Edit: To improve clarity.



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Posted by jk: Fri Feb 2nd, 2018 17:25 11th Post
Eric wrote:
Graham Whistler wrote:
I am very pleased with the results from my D850 but use the D500 more for my bird photography.
Does that mean cropping an 850 file isn't as good as the 500file?

Or is there another reason to use the 500 for birding?

I would say that the DX sensor AF points are better placed (all over sensor area) but also as it has less MP (20 v 45) the noise at high ISO will be less.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Fri Feb 2nd, 2018 17:49 12th Post
It is just that I have had the D500 longer and my 500mm lens live on it so I just pick it up and go!After taking over 5000 frames with it it is now an old trusted friend. I have yet to try the D850 for action pixs.



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Posted by Eric: Sun Feb 4th, 2018 03:28 13th Post
Thanks for the clarification...sometimes the obvious eludes my befuddled brain. Decision made. Will get D500......first!;-)



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Posted by jk: Sun Feb 4th, 2018 08:01 14th Post
I know you dont like investing in duplicate kit but a D500 paired with a D850/810/750 would be a good combo. If you have FX lenses you are in a great place.



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Posted by Graham Whistler: Sun Feb 4th, 2018 09:21 15th Post
Yes agree 100% I hope both cameras will be with me for some time. In the past we had to keep changing too many times as new development came up nearly every 18 months.
20 MP is more than enough for nearly all normal photography.



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Posted by jk: Sun Feb 4th, 2018 13:59 16th Post
In a DX camera with long telephoto lenses then 20-24MP is enough. Any more brings problems.
Similarly with 45MP on FX cameras and a wideangle to short telephoto (<150mm) it gives you ability to crop and also great detail but moire starts to raise its head!



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Posted by Eric: Sun Feb 4th, 2018 14:37 17th Post
jk wrote:
I know you dont like investing in duplicate kit but a D500 paired with a D850/810/750 would be a good combo. If you have FX lenses you are in a great place.
It's not so much the 'investing' in duplicate equipment, so much duplicate equipment laying idle. Happily buy two models if I had a regular use for both. I tend to grab the first camera to hand and make do.



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