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IPS panel monitor - total confusionMonitor seems to behave strangely

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Posted by PRSS: Sat Nov 3rd, 2012 22:38

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Hello everybody

This is my second post on the lines of the same subject I did some days back.

I have just bought an Asus PA238Q IPS panel monitor. The monitor's driver has installed an Asus profile in my operating system under color management. The previous monitor I had was a 23 inch Samsung TN panel. I don't think it installed a profile at all.

Question 1): With this new monitor (IPS panel), if I viewed a picture through Windows Picture Viewer (Win 7), the picture gives a ghastly yellow cast. But if I switched to slide show, things are normal and the pictures look quite fine, like it did on my previous Samsung monitor (TN Panel)

If I viewed the pictures through Irfan View or XnView or Nikon View NX2 , etc. they are all fine.

So why does Window's own native picture viewer gives a yellow cast? (and how does it give a normal picture when switched to slide mode?).

Also when I view thumbnails through Windows Explorer, colors look normal. I am totally confused. I am wondering why I bought this monitor at all. (I hope to do color editing of my photos with this) Have I asked for trouble buying this?

Should I remove this Asus profle from my OS under color management and have no profile at all in the OS? I am scared to remove it lest the monitor goes out of control!

Question 2): How do I know whether my monitor is wide gamut or not? The manufacturer's specifications say only this:

It only says color saturation 100% sRGB and it also says sRGB color space 100% coverage. Nowhere in the specifications is it written as wide gamut.

However, in the monitor presets, there is a preset "sRGB", along with other presets like "standard", "user", "scenery" etc. It also says it has a 10 bit LUT.

Even if I keep this sRGB preset, the Windows Picture Viewer behaves in the same way - i.e. yellow cast unless I go to slide show.

How do I find out if this is a wide gamut monitor? If so even if I chose the preset "sRGB" will I still get the same problem with Windows Picture Viewer?
Please kindly clear my confusion.

Thanks in advance
PRSS

Posted by Robert: Sun Nov 4th, 2012 02:36

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If I viewed the pictures through Irfan View or XnView or Nikon View NX2 , etc. they are all fine.

So why does Window's own native picture viewer gives a yellow cast?
I think you are beating yourself up over nothing. Stick with the advice from the previous thread and stop worrying.

Simply use the software which does work and ignore the software which doesn't.

I would put it down to a typical PC glitch, but what would I know as a Mac user.

If you get the full range of tones from test strips like the one on Philip's website:

http://www.wildsnaps.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/new_page_40web%20sharping.htm

Then that's the most important thing. (While you are there take a look at his wonderful wildlife images...)

http://www.wildsnaps.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

You have to remember that very few people who view your images on screen will be using a calibrated monitor, so you can go to the nth degree to get it right on your screen but nobody else will see it like you do. So if it's somewhere near, stop worrying about it and enjoy your photography.

That's my view on this, fwiw.

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Posted by jk: Sun Nov 4th, 2012 05:07

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I suggest that you delete the Windows Picture Viewer !! It is a heap of rubbish.

Install the FastStone Browser. It is free download and is very good and you will find that you can read NEFs and also do editing so the need for Photoshop is reduced.
http://www.faststone.org

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Posted by Eric: Sun Nov 4th, 2012 05:47

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It really comes down to how the photographs will be viewed by YOU.
Which software YOU want to use.

Windows viewers are notoriously poor at colour fidelity.

Many of the images I have posted on this forum look TOTALLY different in photoshop, faststone, Illustrator etc etc....even on the same monitor.

Whats important to me is how it prints. I know that my photoshop setup (which I use for ALL my editing) matches the printing.

Its one of the reasons that I stick with one piece of software for 99.9% of all my image work.

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Posted by jk: Sun Nov 4th, 2012 15:06

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I agree with Eric.

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Posted by PRSS: Mon Nov 5th, 2012 11:06

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Thank you Robert and others. I just viewed the test strip and i can see the full range of shades from A to Z.

BTW I just got rid of the Asus profile from my OS color management. Now everything is fine!! So on my Windows 7 color management, in the box it is a blank box with no profile. The problem with the Windows picture viewer is also gone.

I also viewed all my photos and everything seems to be working fine now. I t was the Asus profile which has been giving me all this trouble.

Thanks everybody. My confusion is cleared now.

With best regards
PRSS

Posted by Robert: Mon Nov 5th, 2012 15:41

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Glad it's sorted, you can get back to enjoying your photography now! :-)

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