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| Posted: Tue Feb 6th, 2024 08:28 |
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novicius wrote:The " Z " camera`s are Not SLR`s . May not be the cause in that specific case but many zooms can have focus issues across the range (especially zooms over 3x). There’s a balancing act to get the performance equal across the zoom range other wise you have a lens pin sharp at wide end but soft at the tele end….or vice versa, depending which end has been optimised.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 6th, 2024 13:06 |
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novicius
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Yes Eric, that is also part of the equation I reckon , now I have downloaded some profiles and put them in the camera`s, and some of them alter the performance , including that the photo is Always Soft !!..so I wonder how often it is the camera software that is at play/fault with the end result,and how to discover where ,and then how to correct, as I am no expert at software ,yes even NX-studio is at times still a mystery to me.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 6th, 2024 14:04 |
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Eric
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novicius wrote:Yes Eric, that is also part of the equation I reckon , now I have downloaded some profiles and put them in the camera`s, and some of them alter the performance , including that the photo is Always Soft !!..so I wonder how often it is the camera software that is at play/fault with the end result,and how to discover where ,and then how to correct, as I am no expert at software ,yes even NX-studio is at times still a mystery to me. A well known wildlife photographer in the UK uses Sigma lenses 600mm & 800mm primes. The first thing he does on purchasing his lenses is send them to Sigma UK....to have them set up 'properly'. He maintains that all his Sigma lenses ex the factory are not focus optimised .......either because of their QC slackness or because the lighting in UK is less contrasty than Asia needing some lens tweaking. ?????? Having owned a Sigma 500mm I recognise the soft/low contrast he talks about. As to what they do with the lens at Sigma UK I do not know as I sold the lens and never bothered to find out. It made me wonder if other lens suppliers are the same...setting lenses to an average, perhaps a bit like diesel engines needing to be remapped for optimum performance rather than accepting supplied settings. Who knows????
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| Posted: Tue Feb 6th, 2024 16:03 |
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novicius
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Thank You for mentioning the wildlife photog and the squabbles he experienced. I started this thread about my wondering about photogs migrating to the " Z " system,but then leaving it again,...but to where? Granted,I do not know all the others,but it seems to me that there is no " better " alternative. Nikon has always been able to implement real improvements that work,and being very consistent about it, whereas other makes come with something that at closer look are not that impressive, I remember when Olympus showed up with the M1 and the court case that ensued by Leica no less, what a circus that was, today Olympus has no pro-system that matches Nikon...and Minolta who was first with autofocus in a pro camera, ...gone ! The only true rival is Canon,but is their offering a better one then ? Several members here have gone over to brands that do not have the same huge lens range that Nikon offers,and, some of their lenses are very expensive, so is this a case then of " I am not going to use what grandpa has " ? I think it was Graham Whistler who showed some lovely photo`s taken in Africa with a Nikon rig,but has now a Sony, ..so why is that one better ? Personally I stay with the SLR and have in recent years heavily invested in VR lenses as I rely heavily on Nikon`s famed reliability.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 6th, 2024 22:39 |
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Eric
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novicius wrote:Thank You for mentioning the wildlife photog and the squabbles he experienced. Someone once said “the best camera is the one you have in your hand”. It really depends on where and how a person uses their equipment. It also depends on how you define professional equipment. If you mean the most robust to withstand the rigours of daily use (or abuse) then I would probably agree with you. But if you mean professional quality images then I would argue that Olympus equipment, as demonstrated by Jeff’s wildlife images, are more than a match for Nikons. ANY camera placed on a tripod and positioned close enough to the subject to fill the frame, will raise its game. Using a prime lens suitable for that framing will further improve the result, as will using lens hoods, filters and managing lighting. It’s only when situations require a less rigid approach ( eg moving subjects, difficult terrain, distant subjects, poor lighting, remote locations ) that we may need to question the suitability of our equipment. If I hadn’t become interested in bird photography I am convinced I would still be using my Nikon 850 and AFS lenses because to me, although I wanted lighter equipment, the mirrorless offerings like the Z system didn’t deliver sufficient improvement in that respect and actually introduced some irritating negatives. There is no need to change one’s equipment provided it does what you need …..until it’s no longer serviceable or replaceable. At that point, we all face the decision of which way to go.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 8th, 2024 14:27 |
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Eric
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novicius wrote:
Sorry missed that question… The fact is at the time the A1 came out no one else was offering the speed and accuracy of focusing ( including its impressive bif eye lock on) that it could achieve …..plus a ‘black out free’ viewfinder. Nikon mirrorless Z cameras were unacceptable. So with bird photography in mind, both Graham and I switched to Sony. But in the time honoured tradition, as soon as one manufacturer shows their hand, the others, who had been sitting on their own developments while milking the customers as much as possible with existing stock, suddenly had to release their future releases, sooner! And so it goes on. I am happy to stay with Sony for the time being! But if the time comes when I don’t feel as able to handle long lenses or indeed my interest in wildlife photography wanes, then I would again consider a change to something that better suited my needs. I am sure that I would not go back to Nikon as I feel that ‘boat has sailed’ and in all honesty for basic photography there never was a lot of difference in the results Sony and Nikon generated. I could envisage switching to the truly lighter weight Fuji (D)X system if my photography required lenses no more than 24-100mm range.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 8th, 2024 17:09 |
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jk
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It is all a game of technical specification leapfrog. Most makes of camera are as good as each other with maybe small differences that are niche/genre specific e.g. Birds, motorsport, astrophotography, etc. I think choosing a camera is about how the ergonomics, size and weight suit you. Then look at your needs and check if there are lenses that satisfy them. I would be happy to have Canon, Sony, Nikon, Fuji, Pentax cameras as long as I can find ergonomics that suit me.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 8th, 2024 19:13 |
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Eric
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jk wrote:It is all a game of technical specification leapfrog. Exactly. The first time I held a D850 I knew it was the most ergonomic body that Nikon had made…or that I had ever held. It was the big compromise in changing to Sony.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 9th, 2024 13:49 |
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Graham Whistler
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Yes I miss the D850 the best camera Nikon has ever made and the super 500mm light-weight PF lens. I had no time for Z (I tried one for several weeks) they got it very wrong so why not stay with the SLR lenses developed over many years? I have used Nikon since the 1960s so it was sad to sell all my Nikon kit but now have no regrets about going to Sony A1.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 9th, 2024 20:12 |
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Iain
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Like you two I tried z cameras when they came out and was very disappointed. I changed to Sony and have not been disappointed. Would I go back to Nikon? I don’t think so with the cost involved and I don’t think even now that they are any better than the A1.
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