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Posted: Tue Feb 13th, 2024 16:39
 
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I have seen these but this is the first pic I have got of one, not the best.



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Ian that looks good to me. This is another shot of the Sparrowhawk. She was there for over an hour and let me very slowly get quite close. Plastic bag on top of camera as we had rain all afternoon.

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Ive never seen a Firecrest, let alone photographed one :bowing:



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Posted: Tue Feb 13th, 2024 17:18
 
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Graham Whistler wrote:
Ian that looks good to me. This is another shot of the Sparrowhawk. She was there for over an hour and let me very slowly get quite close. Plastic bag on top of camera as we had rain all afternoon.

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That’s a lovely catch, Graham (for you and the Pigeonhawk) . The ones that visit us are more timid and quickly fly off when they see our movement.



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Sadly we don't get hawks here - but the resident fox takes out the occasional pigeon :-)



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Posted: Wed Feb 14th, 2024 11:18
 
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Above photo, before editing in Photoshop as you will see quite a lot of help from AI was needed and all was Content Aware only ie from my camera image as shot. See data of content data as recorded below and yes I DID NOT turn on Content-Aware before editing.   Camera data: Sony AI with 600-200mm at  600mm handheld in rain 1/320 sec f6.3  ISO 3200

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Posted: Wed Feb 14th, 2024 20:33
 
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I am not sure Content Aware alterations would / should be regarded as controversial?

It’s the use of AI, to generate images or parts of images from Adobe stock, that ruffles feathers in the competition/ copyright fraternities. I therefore feel that including basic Photoshop adjustments(however sophisticated and automated they may be) in the Content Credentials is a bit unnecessary…especially when you can switch it off beforehand.



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Posted: Thu Feb 15th, 2024 09:33
 
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I think for competitions etc that the content credentials should have to be switched on so any AI will be shown so no cheating goes on.

 




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Iain wrote:
I think for competitions etc that the content credentials should have to be switched on so any AI will be shown so no cheating goes on.
Surely that's down to the organisers specifying the rules of the competition?  You can enable Content Credentials AFTER doing the editing and it doesn't retrospectively show what you had done.

I do think we are getting our knickers in a twist to some extent over this subject.  

The key point is....has AI (ie Adobe Firefly) been used to replace key parts of the image? This might contravene the competition rules.

I didn't think AI/Firefly use could be switched off in content credentials?  Isn't it only the editing actions that are switchable?

To my mind, it doesn't matter if you use the clone tool to remove detail or use the content aware feature to do it... it's still basic editing using software features.

If you choose to add or replace large elements like a sky or scenery and you do it manually with your own image stock, then its down to the competition organisers to specify that the photograph should be unaltered ....'as shot'.

But then, what about adjusting levels, curves, sharpening and cropping? Are they considered different to cloning and substitutions? They are all Adobes programming.



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Posted: Thu Feb 22nd, 2024 14:25
 
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Heron with frog/toad dinner.


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