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| Posted by richw: Mon Oct 28th, 2013 05:21 | 1st Post |
| Just thinking about upgrading, I held off whilst getting my photos up but anybody tried this yet?
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| Posted by jk: Mon Oct 28th, 2013 05:59 | 2nd Post |
| Yes my Macbook Air and MacPro are Mavericked. I find it better than Mountain Lion which I thought was a bit unfinished. Get the free Mavericks download from the AppStore then save it if you can for reuse. After that you need to get updates to many applications. Only loss so far is DoubleCommand that allows me to pre-program or change keys on the keyboard.
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| Posted by Robert: Mon Oct 28th, 2013 09:28 | 3rd Post |
richw wrote:Just thinking about upgrading, I held off whilst getting my photos up but anybody tried this yet? Have been using it since June... For me it has been the smoothest upgrade ever, some nice features and solid reliability. Using dual monitors I saw a second menu bar and dock for a while but on my Mac mini it has gone again although I understand it's a feature of the upgrade. Not a compelling one for me I have to say. Perhaps the biggest thing has been the upgrading of the iLife and iWork suites which I have only just updated and haven't yet fully assessed. They seem very integrated with the idevices although I am still coming to grips with the iCloud file levelling, there seems to be a tendency to create new documents from old during edits which I haven't understood yet. I think the only issue I have had has been photo stream suddenly deciding to leap into action at 3am and using all my remaining broadband allowance before dawn!!!
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| Posted by TomOC: Mon Oct 28th, 2013 15:59 | 4th Post |
| Rich- I've upgraded both of my macs and Marianne's. Mostly I love it. Have had issues with Apple Mail and Notes. Mail issues are now resolved - some of them were from settings getting fouled up by the upgrade. I really HATE the behavior of Apple Mail now - flying windows like iOS 7. But what's a fellow to do? Go back to Outlook?  Notes still not working well at all - I may have to switch to EverNote till Apple has an update. Even with these two annoyances, I would upgrade. Tom
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| Posted by Robert: Mon Oct 28th, 2013 18:24 | 5th Post |
| What is a 'Flying Window' Tom? I have not seen (noticed) any difference in the way Mail works for a long while (Years). Notes does seem to have some anomalies in the iterations of editing existing notes, all of a sudden it will create a 'New' Note, and switch focus to that leaving the previous version as it was before the edit, I think... I have only just noticed it in the last week or so.
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| Posted by jk: Tue Oct 29th, 2013 04:53 | 6th Post |
| The new version of Text Edit has different behaviours some of which can be changed others not. I find the new bit where it opens the last open document (even though I closed it) to be very annoying. If I open Notes I want to open a blank page to paste something into.
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| Posted by Robert: Tue Oct 29th, 2013 05:29 | 7th Post |
| I tend to use Text Edit for snippets of text like address labels, extracts from eMails etc. The general philosophy is to allow you to resume where you left off. Personally I usually complete a task before closing an application so to me it becomes an inconvenience. All part of the process of making it 'user friendly' for the undisciplined 'dumb' mass users. As an aside, a hidden aspect of the last three OS's since Lion is that while you may quit an application, it actually remains running in the background in case you suddenly decide you need to re-visit a task you were recently working on. You may notice re-launching an application is often much quicker than the initial launch. If you need more resources then it will eventually take those reserved by the closed applications as needed.
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| Posted by TomOC: Tue Oct 29th, 2013 13:02 | 8th Post |
Robert wrote:What is a 'Flying Window' Tom? Robert- When you open an email and when you reply to an email, there is an ugly animation on the screen, flying the window into view...something you might have expected in Microsoft Bob!!!
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| Posted by TomOC: Tue Oct 29th, 2013 13:04 | 9th Post |
jk wrote:The new version of Text Edit has different behaviours some of which can be changed others not. I find the new bit where it opens the last open document (even though I closed it) to be very annoying. If I open Notes I want to open a blank page to paste something into. Notes works great on my iPad and iPhone but when I add to or start a note on either mac, it starts creating multiple copies of the note - looks like one new one for each word I type...it's a mess for me. I've queried apple support but have not reply yet; I think I'll have to switch to Evernote in the meantime.
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| Posted by TomOC: Tue Oct 29th, 2013 13:08 | 10th Post |
Robert wrote:I tend to use Text Edit for snippets of text like address labels, extracts from eMails etc. The general philosophy is to allow you to resume where you left off. Robert- Just an aside, but you might want to look into replacing Text Edit with a free app called Bean - it's great! I'm not talking about snippets for quick copying etc - that is a good use of Text Edit. I make lots of notes (or copy from web pages etc) and I love the way apple Notes was immediately synced to all devices. This bug in the Notes app on the macs pretty much makes it worthless until they fix it. Tom
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| Posted by jk: Tue Oct 29th, 2013 18:56 | 11th Post |
TomOC wrote:Robert wrote: Thanks for the heads up on Bean. I have just completed my third mavericks install/upgrade. Worst part is the inability to stop the Update executing/happening before you can save the update file. This is the real pain of Apple's insistence on the AppStore for everything. In the past it was download once and use it many times now it is dependent on the speed of your internet download as to how long it takes to get a job done! Not all changes are for the better. There should be an option to delete/keep upgrade program at the end of the process.
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| Posted by TomOC: Tue Oct 29th, 2013 19:35 | 12th Post |
| JK- Check out this video http://www.tuaw.com/2013/10/28/video-tip-creating-a-bootable-mavericks-usb-installer/
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| Posted by Robert: Wed Oct 30th, 2013 03:19 | 13th Post |
TomOC wrote:Robert wrote: Tom, sorry for the delayed response, I have been checking this out. I have never seen the 'Flying Windows' effect you describe. Opening eMails and replying to an eMail simply causes a new window to appear instantly. Quite a while ago (Snow Leopard?) I downloaded an application called Tinker Tool, which is a very useful extra set of [deeper] preference settings. My main reason was to be able to set the default screen shot format to JPEG rather than TIFF. My Screenshots are almost always used to post illustrations in forums, so If I capture in TIFF I always have to open software to convert the image to JPEG, which is a pain especially if I am in a hurry. TinkerTool allows the user to select from a comprehensive range of formats to store screen shots in. http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerToolSys2.html I haven't bothered to access it since I installed it and set it up initially to my needs it has survived numerous updates and both beta and public. I suspect the settings I made must have suppressed the Flying Windows effect you describe. I took a look and discovered my TinkerTool was not compatible with Mavericks so I have updated it to the latest version. I now have the Flying Window effect you describe!!! <vbg> But only for replies to eMails, not for opening an email to read. So it must have been a setting in TinkerTool which was suppressing the feature. To be honest I don't find the flying window offensive, I don't feel it adds anything to my use of the computer but it doesn't get in my way particularly. I have tinkered with the settings in TinkerTool but I haven't found a combo to suppress the flying windows when replying to eMails yet. I will tinker some more, it may be in TinkerToolSys2, which I haven't updated yet. if I can't find it I will contact Bresink and ask the Q. Given the flying window has started since I updated TinkerTools it must be related. Another useful thing you can set is to restore the repeat key............. More use to me than diacritic characters. Simple enough to revert if my needs change. TinkerTool is NOT meddling with the system, it is simply providing access to existing preference setting which Apple have chosen to hide. As I have discovered, the settings survive major and minor system updates. I hope this may be of some interest.
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| Posted by Bob Bowen: Wed Oct 30th, 2013 12:32 | 14th Post |
| I'm stuck again just like ML. My BT router stops the downloads at 995mb. Will have to take my laptop to a neighbour and use his system to download then make a bootable copy like last time.
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| Posted by TomOC: Wed Oct 30th, 2013 13:35 | 15th Post |
| Robert- I have Tinker Tool installed - they updated it last week or I would have forgotten about it (I subscribe to MacUpdate and they reminded me .But Marianne doesn't have TinkerTool on her macs and she also has the flying windows. You're right, it doesn't fly open on Open, just Reply...but I find it very very annoying and almost motions sickness feeling like iOS 7 (which let you decrease the animation) when replying to lots of emails...arrrgh
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| Posted by Bob Bowen: Thu Oct 31st, 2013 04:41 | 16th Post |
| Problem solved by logging onto BT Wi-fi through the same router. Now downloaded and working well on my laptop. Bootable copy made with DiskmakerX very easily.
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| Posted by jk: Thu Oct 31st, 2013 07:15 | 17th Post |
Bob Bowen wrote: I'm stuck again just like ML. My BT router stops the downloads at 995mb. Will have to take my laptop to a neighbour and use his system to download then make a bootable copy like last time.Bob, Phone BT Broadband Helpline and complain. They will log the problem and if necessary send you a new router. Alternatively try this program as your Download Manager - Progressive Downloader. http://www.macpsd.net/ Of course this will not work for stuff from the AppStore.
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| Posted by Iain: Sat Nov 2nd, 2013 07:55 | 18th Post |
| updated my mac with no problems at all.
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| Posted by Constable: Sat Nov 2nd, 2013 08:48 | 19th Post |
| JK All you need to do is stop the installation after the installer has downloaded. Then you can copy it to a stick or whatever. For anyone who needs to know, Mavericks is very VPN unfriendly ... Cisco ANyConnect simply does not work Ed
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| Posted by jk: Sat Nov 2nd, 2013 10:28 | 20th Post |
| Never seem to be there when the download finishes. No problem as I have a copy on a USB now. Do you have a fix for your Cisco problem?
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| Posted by Constable: Sat Nov 2nd, 2013 10:36 | 21st Post |
| Fix posted last night http://software.cisco.com/download/release.html?mdfid=283000185&flowid&softwareid=282364313&release=3.1.04072
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| Posted by jk: Sat Nov 2nd, 2013 12:33 | 22nd Post |
| Great news Cisco are very good at sorting these things out. It pays to have their equipment as it is well supported and rock solid.
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| Posted by richw: Sat Nov 2nd, 2013 18:19 | 23rd Post |
| Well I upgraded yesterday, all good so far.
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