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Posted by Eric: Sat Nov 30th, 2013 14:18 1st Post
Shooting a circular glass walled restaurant with sea views. Bright sunshine outside. Owner wants 'mood/lifestyle' shots as well as f64 views from the table rose ....to Holland.

Needless to say, it took a LOT of set up to get light balanced and avoid reflections...a lot of shots.

About 1hour into the shoot....one of the SB900 stobes died. Replaced it with a spare SB800. Worked fine for another 20mins...then while moving a stand, it fell off......LCD cracked and no display.

Fortunately it stayed working, keeping the channel and group settings, for the commander unit to control.

But an expensive equipment malfunction day.

Packaged up and off to Nikon for assessment.


I have one more bar/restaurant to do next Friday...then i am done for 2013. Fingers crossed the remaining gear hangs together till christmas presents come to rescue.

:needsahug:



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Posted by jk: Sat Nov 30th, 2013 17:19 2nd Post
Oh dear expensive gear day.

The are some Nikon clones around now.... check the Yuongnou 565 and 568 units.



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Posted by Eric: Sun Dec 1st, 2013 04:08 3rd Post
jk wrote:
Oh dear expensive gear day.

The are some Nikon clones around now.... check the Yuongnou 565 and 568 units.

I hadn't heard of them...but then, I haven't been looking for flash units...till now!

I wasn't able to dicipher whether the 565 works from the SU800 command unit? It talks of working with onboard command units IN various Nikons. But I wasn't sure whether on board units have the complete range of functionality that the SU800 has? Eg can you change the power output for each of 3 strobes remotely?

The dead and walking dead have been packaged up and will be off to Nikon on Monday. Maybe there's a cheap fix? Not with my luck . :banghead:



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Posted by jk: Sun Dec 1st, 2013 13:37 4th Post
I can check out when I see a friend in a week or so. She has a Yuongnuo 565 unit. I'm sure I tried it with my D800 and it did the remote firing and TTL.



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Posted by Eric: Sun Dec 1st, 2013 14:27 5th Post
jk wrote:
I can check out when I see a friend in a week or so. She has a Yuongnuo 565 unit. I'm sure I tried it with my D800 and it did the remote firing and TTL.
It's not the remote firing......it says it will do that. It's the adjustment of the individual strobes output intensity remotely.

I don't know if the later body command units are the same as the Su800. Earlier models weren't. You could fire the flashes from the camera, but not vary their output.....if I remember correctly?

With the D3 I have to use the Su800 ....but find it very useful to adjust strobes individually without wandering round the set.



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Posted by jk: Sun Dec 1st, 2013 15:04 6th Post
I think if it supports CLS then it will TTL and remotely control output for each flash to match requirements.

I use the PocketWizard (TT5, TT1, AC3) system for this as well and it works on Fuji and Nikon (shhh dont tell anyone except TomO'C)



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Posted by Eric: Sun Dec 1st, 2013 15:11 7th Post
jk wrote:
I think if it supports CLS then it will TTL and remotely control output for each flash to match requirements.

I use the PocketWizard (TT5, TT1, AC3) system for this as well and it works on Fuji and Nikon (shhh dont tell anyone except TomO'C)

Did you get my pm?



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Posted by jk: Sun Dec 1st, 2013 16:59 8th Post
Sorry didnt answer the last part which was no the XE2 is very nice but I am happy with the XE1 and XPro1 especially as Fuji keep addressing the issues as I see them.

The camera will never achieve the AF speed of a D3, D4, D800 but it works it you work to its strengths.
In studio results are astounding. Who needs the heavy Nikon kit when this does it. In fact I have to soften not sharpen.
Currently waiting for the 14mm f2.8 as the 10-24mm from Fuji wont arrive until late February when I will be in HK for a wedding. Need to get used to the 14mm (20mm FF) before then!



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Posted by Judith: Mon Dec 2nd, 2013 15:52 9th Post
I'm going to get one of those Yongnuos. I know a couple of people who have them and they seem pretty good. So, are you waiting for a third breakdown, Eric, or has it already happened? lol.



Posted by Eric: Mon Dec 2nd, 2013 16:34 10th Post
Judith wrote:
I'm going to get one of those Yongnuos. I know a couple of people who have them and they seem pretty good. So, are you waiting for a third breakdown, Eric, or has it already happened? lol.
Hiding under the sofa.:sssshh:



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Posted by richw: Mon Dec 2nd, 2013 18:42 11th Post
Just finished watching 'Light it, Shoot it, Retouch it' for hot-shoes on Kelby Training. He goes very budget on purpose using Cactus radio triggers, a Yuongnou 526 and Impact soft box and light stand.

He's shooting everything manually and then adjusting flash power and camera settings by chomping the photos - but makes the point that working this way there is no difference in image quality between this kit and the expensive Nikon products.



Posted by richw: Wed Dec 4th, 2013 05:17 12th Post
Might want to look at this Eric:

http://strobist.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/super-cheap-replacement-tubes-for-your.html



Posted by Eric: Wed Dec 4th, 2013 06:57 13th Post
richw wrote: Might want to look at this Eric:

http://strobist.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/super-cheap-replacement-tubes-for-your.html
Not sure its the flash tube as the whole thing wont power up.

I did wonder if it just burnt out as it was a 'little warm'. LOL

Both back at Nikon now waiting assessment.




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Posted by jk: Wed Dec 4th, 2013 10:01 14th Post
If you need more data on the Yuongnuo unit see here.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/strobist/discuss/72157631997033592/
http://flashhavoc.com/yongnuo-yn-568ex-review/

Another positive is that compared to the Nikon flashes the setup and use menus are in my opinion much better.



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Posted by Eric: Sun Dec 8th, 2013 11:52 15th Post
£112 for fitting a new LCD!

8-)8-)8-)

More than a new Youngnou replacement!


Still waiting for diagnosis on SB900.o.O



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Posted by jk: Sun Dec 8th, 2013 18:51 16th Post
Eric wrote:
£112 for fitting a new LCD!

8-)8-)8-)

More than a new Youngnou replacement!


Still waiting for diagnosis on SB900.o.O
:'(
:needsahug:



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Posted by richw: Sun Dec 8th, 2013 18:58 17th Post
Well I'd be interested to hear how the Youngnou goes. I'll be buying a backup flash myself in the New Year (My cousin has asked me to do his wedding, need a back up to be happy). A nikon SB910 here is silly money. Even a totally unsupported grey import from the States is $500+



Posted by richw: Sun Dec 8th, 2013 19:01 18th Post
Speaking of flashes and wedding - I've been considering http://qtm.com/index.php/products/qflash/qflash-t5dr

Anybody know much about them at all? From online research a lot of wedding pros seem keen, but it's even more expensive than the SB910.



Posted by Iain: Mon Dec 9th, 2013 04:19 19th Post
Eric wrote:
£112 for fitting a new LCD!

8-)8-)8-)

More than a new Youngnou replacement!


Still waiting for diagnosis on SB900.o.O

That seems a bit steep to me but where else can you get it done.



Posted by Eric: Sat Dec 14th, 2013 15:25 20th Post
I've declined the £112 repair of the Sb800. Written off that gun.

Surprisingly, the SB 900, was a lot cheaper to resurrect and that's underway.

I will see if I can manage with 2 main strobes ( plus 2 smaller units) as I rarely use all 3. But if I feel a gap, I will try the Youngnou you mention.



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Posted by jk: Sat Dec 14th, 2013 16:28 21st Post
richw wrote:
Speaking of flashes and wedding - I've been considering http://qtm.com/index.php/products/qflash/qflash-t5dr

Anybody know much about them at all? From online research a lot of wedding pros seem keen, but it's even more expensive than the SB910.

That looks good Rich.
Quantum have always produced great flash kit.



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