Moderated by: chrisbet,
Frustrated with Nikon and then ...  Rate Topic 
AuthorPost

Posted by Constable: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 12:32 1st Post
I'm frustrated that Nikon has not made (and shows no sign of making) anything like the fantastic Canon MP-E 65 macro lens. Almost to the extent of buying a Canon body just for this.

And then the Nikon just turn around and give you results that blow your mind. These are from an early evening 10 minutes close to my house in an attempt to let the days stress relieve itself.







All D4 with 24-70. As soon as i saw these on screen I felt at one with the world (but I still want an MP-E 65!)

Ed



Posted by TomOC: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 13:02 2nd Post
Ed-

It's a fools game to try to match canon and nikon. Just as one gets an edge on the other, the whole scene is reversed.

Nikon was the really big winner with the D1 - a full three years of monopoly. Then as canon got in the game, they creamed nikon with more great lenses. Then nikon came roaring back and probably has the edge now, especially if you consider the "tank" effect of indestructibility and the far far superior backwards compatibility.

Truth of the matter is that they are both great and once you learn one system and get all the little accessories, there is not much reason to always look over your shoulder at the other. Everyone in this forum was moaning and groaning that nikon would never make a FF body - now canon fans are crying for something to compete with the D800 - it never ends :-) and that is good for US !



____________________
Tom O'Connell

-Lots of people talk to animals.... Not very many listen, though.... That's the problem.

Benjamin Hoff, The Tao of Pooh


Posted by TomOC: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 13:02 3rd Post
By the way...those are some VERY nice shots !!!



____________________
Tom O'Connell

-Lots of people talk to animals.... Not very many listen, though.... That's the problem.

Benjamin Hoff, The Tao of Pooh


Posted by blackfox: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 13:25 4th Post
looks good to me ed ,BTW glad i had those cards monday ,a rare bird, close in, perfect conditions and close to 1000 shots

as below
url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/31671466@N07/8452019035/][/url]
his best side (EXPLORED) by black fox wildlife photography, on Flickr



Posted by Robert: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 14:25 5th Post
Has that duck got a touch of red eye Jeff?

BTW, Many years ago I listened to an interview with Patrick Lichfield about portrait photography on a radio 'phone in'. One caller asked about how to cure red eye, Patrick suggested a special pen to touch up the eyes. The caller was horrified "Wouldn't that be painful for the sitter?" asked the caller...

Wonderful photographs Ed, when you chuck that old D4 away let me know!



____________________
Robert.



Posted by Constable: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 15:23 6th Post
Hi all

No not really in a Canon-Nikon cat fight, jus rather happy with the way everything just seemed to work perfectly together in the shoot.

Jeff ... what is that? Some sort of a grebe, but not one that I have ever seen before.

Ed



Posted by Constable: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 15:31 7th Post
Sorry guys, one more from that session plus a gratuitous HDR image





Robert .. you are at the top of the list

Ed



Posted by Robert: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 15:46 8th Post
Thanks Ed! :devil:



____________________
Robert.



Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 16:00 9th Post
blackfox wrote:
looks good to me ed ,BTW glad i had those cards monday ,a rare bird, close in, perfect conditions and close to 1000 shots

as below
url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/31671466@N07/8452019035/][/url]
his best side (EXPLORED) by black fox wildlife photography, on Flickr

Nice Slav Jeff. :thumbsup:



____________________
Eric


Posted by Eric: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 16:04 10th Post
Constable wrote:
Hi all

No not really in a Canon-Nikon cat fight, jus rather happy with the way everything just seemed to work perfectly together in the shoot.

Jeff ... what is that? Some sort of a grebe, but not one that I have ever seen before.

Ed

Looks like a Slavonian Grebe in winter plumage .

Was watching them on Lac Annecy in Sept.



____________________
Eric


Posted by jk: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 16:15 11th Post
Are they part of the EU ?
Bet that it is in UK to claim benefits!



____________________
Still learning after all these years!
https://nikondslr.uk/gallery_view.php?user=2&folderid=none


Posted by blackfox: Fri Feb 8th, 2013 18:02 12th Post
yep eric got it right its a slavonian grebe ,there are only a few hundred in the whole u.k mostly in the very far north of scotland .my lad got one a few years ago locally ,but this is the first time i have ever seen one .and on a huge lake hard to spot as there very very small.to get it on float past at around 20 feet or so was the real triumph of the day ,the winter sun was the icing on the cake


p.s the eye is that colour its not photoshopped


another one url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/31671466@N07/8444409709/][/url]
state sail past (EXPLORED) by black fox wildlife photography, on Flickr



Posted by Robert: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 03:30 13th Post
Only pulling leg Jeff, excellent photographs and well done capturing a rare visitor.

Being in the right place at the right time is key, I am surrounded by wildlife possibilities here but my real passion is not wildlife. I really enjoy the occasional sortie into the wild but don't have the passion to sustain it regularly. I have great respect for those who do.

Well done for being in the right place at the right time, and realising what you are looking at isn't a Duck.



____________________
Robert.



Posted by jk: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 04:35 14th Post
Ed, regarding the Canon lens. It is a macro that provides a large amount of extension as though there was a bellows attached. This allows it to provide 1:1 to x5 mag. Ideal for insects and the like.

If you use the Nikon 60 or 105 or Sigma 150/180 you get 1:1 or better as well but I guess you want the ultra close up with no extra carry of extension tubes or bellows.



____________________
Still learning after all these years!
https://nikondslr.uk/gallery_view.php?user=2&folderid=none


Posted by jk: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 04:36 15th Post
Nice shot Jeff.

Did I understand correctly that you were in a floating hide on the water ?
Very cold in that water!!!



____________________
Still learning after all these years!
https://nikondslr.uk/gallery_view.php?user=2&folderid=none


Posted by Robert: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 05:42 16th Post
This is the lens.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/mp-e-65.shtml

Why not use an adaptor to fit it to the D4? Give Dr. Klause D Schmitt a call, I am sure he will be able to source something or will know where you can get one. I can PM you his eMail if you like Ed.

With an adaptor on a Nikon mount you won't be able to get infinity but I doubt that will be a problem. It will also give you greater that 1:5 magnification...



____________________
Robert.



Posted by jk: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 05:53 17th Post
There are Canon to Nikon lens adapters available on eBay.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-Canon-FD-Lens-to-Nikon-Mount-Adapter-Infinity-focus-With-correctional-glass-/261152645937?pt=UK_Photography_CameraLenses_Lens_caps_hoods_adaptors_ET&hash=item3ccde92331

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Macro-Canon-EF-EFS-lens-to-Nikon-SLR-DSLR-F-camera-mount-adapter-ring-converter-/290706991685?pt=UK_Photography_CameraLenses_Lens_caps_hoods_adaptors_ET&hash=item43af7caa45



____________________
Still learning after all these years!
https://nikondslr.uk/gallery_view.php?user=2&folderid=none


Posted by blackfox: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 06:47 18th Post
jk wrote:
Nice shot Jeff.

Did I understand correctly that you were in a floating hide on the water ?
Very cold in that water!!!

no no no john boy ,well past those type shenagins ,i did however use my bulk to squeeze into some bushes at lake level and get down on my knees on the soggy ground to get some of the shots ,(and cheers i have now realised why my knee has been aching all week ) :applause:



Posted by Robert: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 07:13 19th Post
NOT the one with glass in!!! Or smash it out, it's low quality stuff to correct for infinity, rubbish. In this case Infinity not needed.


The other one looks OK.


I suppose I have shot myself in the foot here, if Ed does get one and the Canon MP-E 65 lens, he won't be tossing the D4 in the garbage. o.O



____________________
Robert.



Posted by Robert: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 08:06 20th Post
This is an option for Jeff, instead of lying in the mud? Save his old knees.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21393173



____________________
Robert.



Posted by Squarerigger: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 09:25 21st Post
Really appreciate you sacrificing your knees to get that shot Jeff. Very well done.



____________________
--------------------------------------------
Gary


Posted by Constable: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 09:56 22nd Post
Thanks guys. Sorry for the silence .. I'm on my way to the airport.

Sorry to disappoint Robert, although he didn't shoot himself in the foot. Thise Canon-Nikon adaptors are not very good .. at least the ones with glass in are really C**p. The best solution I have found is an achromatic 3x on my sigma 150. The 10x are horrible, but the 3x is OK. The Canon 500D has a role to play as well.

Ed



Posted by Squarerigger: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 10:30 23rd Post
Constable wrote:
Thanks guys. Sorry for the silence .. I'm on my way to the airport.

Sorry to disappoint Robert, although he didn't shoot himself in the foot. Thise Canon-Nikon adaptors are not very good .. at least the ones with glass in are really C**p. The best solution I have found is an achromatic 3x on my sigma 150. The 10x are horrible, but the 3x is OK. The Canon 500D has a role to play as well.

Ed


Safe trip Ed, hope you are going somewhere warmer.



____________________
--------------------------------------------
Gary


Posted by Constable: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 10:47 24th Post
Pretoria for two days! Hot but monsoon season.

Ed



Posted by Squarerigger: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 10:52 25th Post
Constable wrote:
Pretoria for two days! Hot but monsoon season.

Ed

What camera are you taking?



____________________
--------------------------------------------
Gary


Posted by Constable: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 11:04 26th Post
Fuji xe1 with 18-55 ... Hand luggage only so minimum kit



Posted by Squarerigger: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 11:07 27th Post
Constable wrote:
Fuji xe1 with 18-55 ... Hand luggage only so minimum kit

Hope you share your experience with xe1 and lens combo when you return. Stay dry.



____________________
--------------------------------------------
Gary


Posted by jk: Sat Feb 9th, 2013 12:52 28th Post
Constable wrote: Fuji xe1 with 18-55 ... Hand luggage only so minimum kitPlenty good enough for anything except for animal safari shooting or sports!
:-)



____________________
Still learning after all these years!
https://nikondslr.uk/gallery_view.php?user=2&folderid=none

Reply
1st new
This is topic ID = 534  
Nikon DSLR Forums > Camera and Lens Forums > Cameras > Frustrated with Nikon and then ... Top

Users viewing this topic

Post quick reply

Current theme is Blue



A small amount of member data is captured and held in an attempt to reduce spammers and to manage users. This site also uses cookies to ensure ease of use. In order to comply with new DPR regulations you are required to agree/disagree with this process. If you do not agree then please email the Admins using info@nikondsl.uk Thank you.


Hosted by Octarine Services

UltraBB 1.173 Copyright © 2008-2024 Data 1 Systems
Page processed in 0.1873 seconds (86% database + 14% PHP). 178 queries executed.